Penhold Techniques for Table Tennis

Penhold Techniques for Table Tennis

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Hi I’m Alois Rosario from PingSkills. Today
we’re going to show you the Penhold Grip. To use the Penhold Grip you have your thumb
and your pointer finger encircling the handle. On the other side of your bat you can have
your three fingers flat or curved. Whatever your preference is. You’ll notice that Matt
uses the Chinese style Penhold bat. With the Chinese style Penhold bat it’s very similar
to Shakehand bat except the handle is a little bit shorter. The advantages of the Penhold Grip are that you can use your wrist a lot better because you are using your wrist in this motion. Whereas with the Shakehand Grip you are using your wrist in this motion which is a smaller action. The Penholders can get a little bit more spin
with their serves. Another advantage is that you don’t have a crossover point in the middle. On the forehand side you are playing like that and as the ball gets to the middle you don’t
need to change the side that you’re using. So that eliminates the problem of the crossover
point . So if Matt uses the Shakehand Grip you’ll notice when it gets to the middle area
he needs to change between the forehand side and the backhand side of his bat. With the Penhold Grip this is eliminated. What are the disadvantages of the Penhold
Grip? Firstly, previously the backhand used to be a problem with the Penhold Grip because
Penholders always used the same side to hit the ball. However now we can use the reverse
backhand, we are going to show you some of those techniques today. Although there are
differences between the Penhold and the Shakehand Grip you’re going to find that there are a
lot of similarities as well. Especially when we are looking at the forehand techniques. Today we have Matt Low to show us the Penhold technique. You will see that Matt’s forehand starts very similar to the Shakehand technique, he starts with his bat down beside him at table height
and flat. He follows through up and forward towards his head. To get more topspin he
starts a little bit lower just below table height and finishes up at head height. From side on you’ll get a better view of where he starts and finishes his bat. The forehand very similar to the Shakehand. The backhand technique with the Penhold is
where the differences lie. With the block you come straight forward. With the backhand counterhit you tend to start a little bit lower and come up a little bit but with the grip
you’ll notice that it’s difficult to extend the wrist. The backhand counterhit becomes more like a punch technique. From side on you can see the bat punching forward. The important part of the technique for the backhand topspin is to make sure that you have your grip correct. You notice here that Matt’s bat is not quite in the right position.
If he tried to hit the backhand topspin with this grip the ball would go off to the side.
To get the correct grip technique you need to show the full face of the bat to the ball.
This will eliminate a lot of the errors and get the ball to go straight with the backhand
topspin. Here you can see Matt’s bat facing directly
towards the ball. From the back you’ll see that the red side of Matt’s bat is always facing towards the back you never see the black side. You’ll notice that Matt’s bat
starts nice and low and finishes high. And it’s coming through on the one plane so the
angle of the bat doesn’t change at all. From the side you will notice that Matt’s
bat starts below the level of the table and finishes above head height. You will notice that the angle of the blade for the Penhold is exactly the same as when you’re using the Shakehand Grip. So for the backhand push and the forehand push you are
sliding underneath the ball getting your bat to slide underneath the ball to impart a little
bit of backspin. Notice also how Matt’s right foot is moving
in and out after each push. This gets him ready in case the ball comes along so that
he can topspin. With each push he moves his right foot in. The Korean or Japanese backhand technique is to use the same side of your bat but starting with your bat out very wide. You will notice that with the Japanese or Korean backhand
technique the contact is quite flat. The contact point is way outside the line of your body. Let’s have a look at some combinations using the Penhold Grip. This first combination is fairly simple because you are using the same side of he bat for the forehand push and he
forehand topspin. This is very similar to the Shakehand technique. This combination
is a little bit more difficult, so we are doing a backhand push then the backhand reverse
topspin and then a backhand block. Changing the side you are using each time. This is something
the Penholder needs to practise. Now Matt’s doing a variation of combinations,
so he’s starting with a backhand push and a backhand reverse topspin, the third ball
can be anywhere so he needs to adjust. This gets the Penholder used to using the different sides of your bat. Because the Penholder is using the same side of his bat for the third
ball it is quite simple, so the third ball is either a backhand punch or a forehand using
the red side. You will notice particularly from the side
the third ball punch goes forward and flat.

100 thoughts on “Penhold Techniques for Table Tennis”

  1. Yep u can. That's the traditional Korean/Japanese penhold grip. (The first time Japan and Korea actually AGREED on something). Plus that's what I use!

  2. I've always wondered if the pros used reversed backhand with penhand as I've considered it. Now that I've seen it here I think it's worth developing

  3. The forehand for this pen-hold grip is phenomenal, especially in returning top-spin serves. However, unless you dedicate quite a bit of time to mastering your backhand, you will find this grip quite difficult to use when rallying (solely due to the awkwardness of the backhand).

    This is just my opinion, but if you have already started using a shake-hand grip, I would try and master that first!

  4. I've just started playing Table Tennis and I've decided to go for the penhold technique, great tutorial thanks!

  5. I have a problem. When i vs my friend using shake hand, he hits to the edge always and it seems like my arm cant reach all the way there. Any good videos to hit side edge hits?

  6. i just started using penhold grip, i grip more toward the end of handle and spread out the three fingers on backside, and hold the bat somewhat perpendicular to hand. i find this grip very flexible in hitting different ball flights, though not as powerful as the shakehand grip, i can use both bat sides very naturally. the downside is work too much for the wrist, in fact curling fingers only increases burden on the wrist. good work.

  7. I am playing table tennis about a month, I learnt the penhold 1 week after I started and noticed that my reactions and strokes have greatly improved!

  8. May I ask- in your grip is the positioning of the thumb or the pressure applied by the thumb supposed to change at all when you switch from the reverse backhand stroke to the so called "traditional" backhand stroke? I've seen some information that suggests the thumb should be looser and even move up the handle slightly when making the traditional backhand stroke, compared to the RPB where the thumb stays wrapped more tightly and closer to the index finger.

    You guys do fine work 🙂

  9. Hi Alois,
    I find my forehand to be more powerful and have more spin with the penhold so I'm definitely keeping the grip, but could you please make a vides or give me tips for my penhold inverted backhand. I'm a lefty and I find the face of the bat tends to face left and it feels awkward. Please help!

  10. I am looking for a new penhold paddle. I'm 13 years old so would the Japanese penhold be harder for me or hurt my game? Should I just go with Chinese penhold? I'm sort of on the side of Japanese style. Thanks!!

  11. Using a J-Pen racket helps greatly with how to hold it, the raised cork leaves little room for error. Great video, I'm thinking about going back to a J-Pen.

  12. When I try to penhold and forehand loop/topspin it always goes over the table, is it something in my form? It feels like I'm doing it fine but idk, it's hard on my wrist, I am just using a FL style bat, should I learn with a short handle? (Chinese Penhold) Cause my forehand and RBP are terrible. I am also trying my forehand loop and topspin almost the same way I do with Shakehand.

  13. el mejor es estilo mariposa…
    el penhold o lapicero siempre a quedado atras por la falta de ataque con topspin, es una desventaja, el que lo logra contrarrestar sufre un desgaste fisico notable al estar buscando siempre su derecho

  14. I see some players sometimes go straight-UP when they perform either a backhand or forehand topspin loop and it generates a lot of spin but less velocity. Is this the proper way of hitting back the ball or is the generated spin they're making just trying to throw their opponent off?

  15. Hello.. would anyone give a little beginner like me some advice and tips. 😀
    I have a dhs PG7 (chinese penhold) blade
    and DHS neo hurricane 3 for forehand..
    now my question is.. can I use a short pips on backhand? like doing some twiddling and switch styles from time to time?
    is this a bad idea? please give me some insights. thanks..

  16. Is there not a reverse forehand? I find that you can generate ridiculous amounts of topspin using the reverse side of the bat on the forehand – can't get it very accurate though.

  17. I just found this channel and I must applaud your simple and professional approach to Ping Pong. As a rookie I play casually. My space and time for playing Ping Pong are limited but I enjoy learning more and growing in the sport, which has been helped immensely but your tutorials.

  18. Hi, i have big problem… I really like this grip and i would like to learn how to play it, but when I play about 30min with this grip, my fingers and hand hurts massively, I dont know why… this is keeping me for using this grip, that I really like.

  19. I'm having hard time adjusting with my RPB, because I have very long
    fingers, should I curl them all together? what are your recommendations
    on this matter?

  20. Hello Alois! Hope youre doing great!
    On ques!
    On what situations do you use the punching technique and what situations do you use the reverse backhand?

  21. When I was first learning ping pong, my brother forced me to learn the penholder grip. It turns out to be by far the best, as for me, it virtually eliminates the backhand, and most of your movement is in the wrist. Also, you can really put some spin on the ball, and make killer short shots.

  22. I just started playing ping pong and chose the pen gip as my first choice. Now I can do different spins, but when I do the top spin my elbow area gets sore after a while, (I'm 16 no tendinitis) does this something to do with my technique?

  23. Hello PingSkills! I'd just like to ask for some extra tips on the reverse backhand. I hit the ball right on and it keeps flying off the table. Anything you can tell me?

  24. Hello Alois! I have a question about which penhold grip i should use since I am extremely conflicted between using the japanese penhold and the chinese penhold. I use cchinese penhold when I serve and I switch to japanese when I rally. I tried both chinese and japanese penhold and they both work fine except for reverse penhold backhand which I prefer chinese penhold more. My question is, should I use the chinese penhold or the japanese penhold? I also want to thank you for making a video about penhold techniques since everyone is pretty much doing tutorials on shakehand techniques

  25. I use the penhold grip flat fingered, when I do the backhand technique, it doesn't really have that much space to hit the ball, it hits my fingers everytime. xDAny solutions?

  26. Hi, PingSkills. Can you make a video detailing on how to use Backhand Penhod? Also how do I counter the spin using this technique. Thanks.

  27. I started out playing table tennis using the Shakehand grip. I recently switched to Penhold. I have always dabbled with Penhold, but finally, I decided that my style dictated that I make the jump to Penhold. My serves are my strength and I can put much more spin on them and have more control using Penhold. Thank you for this video. I am positive that I made the right decision and will continue to practice both grips, but focus mainly on Penhold.

  28. Missing key point: when doing the reverse backhand topspin, it's important to put pressure on the thumb while turning the wrist inwards before contact. You can see many top penhold players such as Xu Xin do this.

  29. Hey! I simply want to give a huge thumbs up for the nice video youve here on this post. I will probably be coming again to your videos for more soon.

  30. 4:30 çocuğun işaret parmağının orda olması normal mi ya? ben traditional backhand vurmam gerektiğinde o kadar hızlı değiştiremiyorum parmak pozisyonunu , daha çok Ma Lin gibi yapmaya çalışıyorum . videodaki biraz maçlarda görmediğim tipten.
    bu arada çocuk robot gibi mk

  31. Very nice video, thank you! Hard to find good instructions for penholders. A video with advanced pehold serve techniques would be great too. It seems to me that if you are mostly relying on RPB, like Wang Hao, then you pretty much still have the crossover point weakness in more or less the same spot? I am not an expert, I tried both grips, and to me the main advantage of penhold is more control on the spin because of its extended amplitude of wrist movement. I guess, from my limited understanding, one disadvantage of penhold would be for chopping defenders — looks like that play style is better suited for shakehand?

  32. hello, I'm trying to learn how to play with the penhold grip by myself, since I've not been able to find people who teach this style in my city, but after a while I started to feel a pain in my shoulder. Obviously I'm doing something wrong but I can't understand what, I even tried moving the shoulder as little as possible but it doesn't seem like a proper solution since it makes really hard to strike the ball effectively. Has someone had the same problem? Could you maybe explain to me precisely what is the correct movement to perform or do you know any exercises to learn it? I would really love if you could help me!

  33. My friend uses the penhold technique and he is starting playing table tennis. I cannot teach him the basics because I really don't know the penhold grip at all.

  34. Is it weird when i am using shakehand blade for playing penhold grip? Because it seems more comfortable than using penhold blade

  35. Pingskills I am having trouble with the reverse backhand because even if I make the black face (back face of the blade) face the ball the ball still goes of to the side. Please help.

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